Template Graphics

Thanks for the feedback Rainer, at the moment some options I can immediately think of is to look at commercial configurations for AVEVA Edge to get past the restriction of tag counts. There is a variety of options in Edge licensing support ranging from 1K, 2K, 10K, 100K, all the way up to Unlimited tags.  Now there's some considerations we'll probably need to factor in but this presents an option for users.. I've provided some reference documents,

Page 23/27 highlights some of the tag options available 

https://www.aveva.com/content/dam/aveva/documents/info/edge-resources/Intro-AVEVA-Edge-2020R2.pdf?_gl=1*1jkm2yp*_up*MQ..*_ga*MTI1MTQwNzE1Ny4xNzE1Nzc0NzQ1*_ga_2E8P7THCR4*MTcxNTc3NDc0Mi4xLjEuMTcxNTc3NDgxMS4wLjAuMA..

Hi Edward, as you as can see the price is competitive as we compete with Ignition and VT SCADA , hence getting a higher bracket increases the prices significantly. From the tag sizes we can see there is 4k and from there it jumps directly to 16k offering nothing in between. The advantage that Edge has is it's tag count based pricing which becomes compelling for very small projects compared to competitors.

Understood.. as for next steps might i suggest adding your ideas for product enhancement to the following portal? This will allow visibility to our portfolio and development teams to review 

softwareforums.aveva.com/.../suggest 

Rainer,

Not sure if your question was answered, but one way to create graphics without consuming tags is to build "Linked Symbols" using the native Edge Graphics.

Here are a couple of videos (branded InduSoft before it became AVEVA Edge):

Symbols:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnApx64c6G4

Custom properties:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si8klVo1-7I

Please let us know if this helps.

Hi Scott, No i did not get an answer until now, so thank you so mcuh for this. I will go back and have a look at this, ill keep you updated here

Hi Scott, so should i use #Tagname as the reference which will not use a tag and no tag count ?

When creating Linked symbols, you can create "custom properties" the syntax is #PropertyName:optionalDefaultValue. The symbol itself won't consume any tags until you use the symbol and assign it tags. You can put a tag in as the Default value or assign it text in double quotes, or because it is optional, leave it blank (then it won't be assigned to a tag). For example when I define the symbol: 

when I make it a linked symbol it shows this:

Notice the value is blank, but you can add a tag later.

Hello Scott

If it is a standard (Bool, Integer, Real, String) tag it is true, you don't need to create a tag, and the "Custom property" is the place holder, the question will be how do you avoid creating a tag when you are using a Class?

Hi Scott Kortier  and Alejandro Raudales  i found a video on this but even here they are using a tag with class type . Have you tried using #class instead of a tag ? I'm not sure if it work , here is the video link which you can use to understand the problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVZz2nWq9ng

Thanks Rainer

I have seen that Video from Miguel Meza.

What he does is exactly what we are doing, the problem we found with that is that If we want to have the elements not related to a particular tag of project, we need to create a generic Tag, that we can move from one project o other, and tag is not connected to any PLC, but is wasting tag on my database, and if I have 10 classes on my library, and each class has 20  members, I am using 200 tags just for the Library, and that's what I want to avoid somehow.

This is what happens when you try to use the class name, it 

I think I will have to pay the extra tags, with the engineering efficiency that we get back , by using this approach.

Thanks very much