Hello. Anyone have installed/used AVEVA System Platform in a PROXMOX Virtual Enviroment instead of VMWare or Hyper-V? Appreciate any comment or use case.

Hey Yerson, I have had a play with this, and after VMWare subscription model, we are also looking for alternate options. Currently found no issue running on Proxmox but it's not officially supported by AVEVA as a hypervisor. I found issues when i did cloning and redundancy. So, I used two different OS and used System Platform redundancy, VMWare worked on even OS redundancy which seems to not work on Proxmox

Hi Rainer,

I got the question yesterday if we support Proxmox. You wrote here that you are using Proxmox as hypervisor, and that everything seems to work fine. From the the perspective of AVEVA I have to tell the customer that it isn't supported. But they want to use it and asking us what they can get of support. They understand that we cannot guarantee they will not run in any problem. But it can of course.

Can rephase a little bit more what you ment with:
I found issues when i did cloning and redundancy. So, I used two different OS and used System Platform redundancy, VMWare worked on even OS redundancy which seems to not work on Proxmox

If a product manager of AVEVA reads this than I want to know if there are plans in the near future to also support this Proxmox hypervisor stuff.

Hi Laurent, I didn’t understand your question for me ?? Was it a question or just information?

In the first alinea I mention that I also got the question about the support of the AVEVA software on Proxmox.

But I'm asking you to explain the italic part more in depth.

Hi Lauran, one of the advantages of using a hypervisor is backup and recovery, say if the OS or hardware crashed, i would like a second instance from a cluster/ secondary hardware to take the OS image and spin up the VM thereby reducing downtime. When i tried to do this in Proxmox it actually failed, i couldn't find the reason but the same worked in VmWare vsphere 8.0 

Clear Rainer. Thx

Hi everyone,

I've been tempted to try out Proxmox and perhaps run my lab VMs on it just as a learning experience.

Fundamentally, products like System Platform, InTouch, and Historian run on Microsoft Windows and we do not have direct interation with the hypervisors. Therefore, it will often be possible to run without issues on most hypervisors, and "often" is generally an acceptable quality of service for development systems, demos, or test benches.

However, when it comes to production systems, we must be very careful with what we officially support. Even if Proxmox may work for some applications, we do not know for sure how the combination of our software and Proxmox pans out in context of varyingconfigurations, hardware utilization, or advanced capabilities such as High Availability, Fault Tolerance, or Disaster Recovery. Hence we cannot stand behind that as an officially tested and supported combination. For some that is ok, for others it is not. If you do use Proxmox, there is a good chance that it may work, but AVEVA will not guarantee it.

Today, most customer demand is for VMware or Hyper-V and as far as I know there are no funded plans to validate and support Proxmox. If there is a noticable raise in demand for supporting Proxmox in production systems, we may consider validating it. However, we prefer to direct our investments toward more granular deployment options than Windows-based VMs, such as containers.

Hi everyone,

I've been tempted to try out Proxmox and perhaps run my lab VMs on it just as a learning experience.

Fundamentally, products like System Platform, InTouch, and Historian run on Microsoft Windows and we do not have direct interation with the hypervisors. Therefore, it will often be possible to run without issues on most hypervisors, and "often" is generally an acceptable quality of service for development systems, demos, or test benches.

However, when it comes to production systems, we must be very careful with what we officially support. Even if Proxmox may work for some applications, we do not know for sure how the combination of our software and Proxmox pans out in context of varyingconfigurations, hardware utilization, or advanced capabilities such as High Availability, Fault Tolerance, or Disaster Recovery. Hence we cannot stand behind that as an officially tested and supported combination. For some that is ok, for others it is not. If you do use Proxmox, there is a good chance that it may work, but AVEVA will not guarantee it.

Today, most customer demand is for VMware or Hyper-V and as far as I know there are no funded plans to validate and support Proxmox. If there is a noticable raise in demand for supporting Proxmox in production systems, we may consider validating it. However, we prefer to direct our investments toward more granular deployment options than Windows-based VMs, such as containers.